DSBP

Richard Hobbs talks to Tommy T. Rapisardi about the high’s and low’s surrounding the ownership of this electro-industrial label and distribution company. We also follow his dedication towards keeping the US industrial scene alive with the founding of his own successful radio show and an ongoing campaign against music piracy.
(July 2002)
www.dsbp.cx

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1. When did the label begin, what were your reasons for starting it, and how did you decide on the name. I believe the initials stood for something different before?
Thanks for the interview. The DSBP began in 1996...we originally started out as a metal / industrial label. We released some heavy stuff and some cassettes in the first year...it took us a year to get our focus on elektro-industrial, and phase out the metallic stuff. We have kept an aggressive edge though with all our bands signed.
The initials stand for many different things...have fun with it.
Why be like everyone else, and so simple.... we keep ya guessing.

2. Who are the bands currently signed to DSBP?
We have BIOPSY, AGHAST VIEW, DIVERJE, FORCED, RUN LEVEL ZERO, CONTROL.ORG, ANDRACULOID, SYMBIONT, IONIC VISION, SYSTEM DER DINGE, TESTUBE, and in-FUSED.

3. What qualities do you look for in a DSBP band?
We really enjoy and appreciate originality, diversity and a more harder
aggressive sound. We like the elektro-industrial sound a lot here, sometimes synthpop / ebm, and power noise, but I prefer when bands can mix it all in there...there’s too much cloned shit coming out from the synthpop, and power noise genres...so much of it sounds the same now.
Bands need to bring it to the next level and mix the styles in a smooth way.. That’s what most of our roster does; only intelligent people pick up on that. We are picky..but we love a lot of bands that we haven't been able to sign… so we support them through distro, and radio promotions that I do here at DSBP.

4. How closely do you work with your bands, do you help promote their tours and support them at their gigs?
We work as closely as they will let us..but we also have 12 bands to work with, and to be on top of everything always is kinda rough...but we give our bands all the best support we can give. We are a family oriented label..all of our bands are brothers!

5. How many releases are available now from DSBP?
We are on DSBP #1044 now...so we’ve been busy..44 releases as of now...and 38 are cd releases...I think...

6. How many members of staff are involved with the day to day running of the label?
Day to day it is me and Cyb0burnt...I am always at it here, and he is the webmaster, tech-guru...always helping me with anything I need.. and our good buddy Mikey is always helping us on the audio side..he does some great mastering for each release, and editing, and programming..
There are also some DSBP Team members in other states in the USA who help us often with the financial end of things! Dave O., Ryan H., and Brian L. are the awesome backup we have to keep the team rocking!!

7. As you also offer a distribution service, it must be a great help for advertising DSBP through the labels you’re involved with, also this must provide a good knowledge of the current worldwide scene and help in your choice of selecting artists to feature on your compilations and radio show. Can you comment?
Yeah it is...but I must say..we help more labels than would ever help us. I think a major problem in this underground scene is...too many of the "so called" underground labels are not supportive of the others..they are really just wanting to be a "major label" in the long run, and they do not do as many trades, and pick up our titles like we do theirs..
We do work with a lot of great labels though too!! METROPOLIS does a good job on distro with us, and a few labels do trades still.
We are doing all we can to help everyone though, and the only label I see with a similar attitude is....ANT-ZEN...ever see a barcode on one of their discs?? Ever see one on ours? We are not here to be corporates, or MTV bands..fuck that. We don't care about soundscan and billboard and they don't care about us..LOL!!

8. Let’s talk about your radio show CYBERAGE RADIO, what is this project about and how did you become involved with it?
http://www.cyberage.cx
I started this show out of my love for new electronic music...
This is the longest running "electro-industrial/power noise/synthpop mixed" show going strong! We’ve been on KUNM, university of New Mexico for 8 years now...and we been on the website since 1997..I remember when we first did it, and sent a playlist to RMI, how everyone was puzzled at what we were doing..and all of these new d.js came up asking me how to do the internet radio shows, and put them online....I see a lot of those guys doing it still to this day and always in competition..its fun..cause we know we rock the boat.

5 hours is more than any other show out there!! We are not just an internet
radio show...we are on the air, real radio power!!,100,000 watts reaching all of New Mexico, and then people can listen live as well, as well as archived shows on the website.
We keep each program up for a years time...over 300 hours of music..its intense.. Plus we always keep a lot of personality and reality to the show...and rants and all that...someone needs to do it..

9. What is DSBP’s relationship with Optikon Rekords?
Optikon Records is John Thomas's label..(of ANDRACULOID), this is a smaller label he uses for cd-r releases, and to release his own stuff...if we don't. We are brother labels, and we will do some more releases together, where we both pitch in on all sides of it.

10. Will DSBP only specialise in the harder electro / industrial genre?
We like a lot of diversity, and keep doing what we love...most of the better music I get here is of the harder elektro-industrial sound..and stuff I can personally relate to..cause we are not all "Happy happy joy joy here" and like to write about our reality. That’s industrial music!!
There are bigger problems in this world than losing a girlfriend..

11. How many other countries are DSBP distributed within and how have you found their responses are towards your music?
We are mainly distributed here in the USA and in CANADA. Which is too bad...European distributors want everything for free basically and never really paid anyone I know off, and they disappear quickly..so I don't know of any reliable distributors....in fact I can only think of METROPOLIS, DSBP, and ADD and then for the noise stuff ANT-ZEN as the best, and most reliable distributors in the world. Its really sad to see it, and disappointing to our bands as well..
We have tried with some of the overseas distributors, but they are very snobby and stuck in their same old sounds...sorry to say it..but I only speak it as I see it. They are afraid of heavier stuff too..no doubt about that!!!:-)

12. Moving back home now, what are your views on the US scene at the moment; do you feel more US acts are relying on Europe for sales?
I think the USA is putting out the best and most diverse electronic music.. I don't think we rely on the European market, cause I don't see much of a market there for the bands of the states...unless you are a synthpop / ebm club star. It seems like the USA welcomes the European bands, and all these people will spend $20 for a cd of the same old remixes..but its not the same there.

13. I see you display an anti copying symbol on your advertising. How badly has CD-R copying and file sharing on the net affected the label?
Copying does kill music...easy and simple...just think about it.
It has killed our sales by at least 50%..as my sales were way higher last year at this time, and the year before even better..and we had a lot less stuff.. Our catalog has around 500 titles..and if I told you how many sales I get a week..you would be like..."huh????" we press less too...1,000 cd's used to be standard..now 500 press is standard. That’s not cause people do not like our music..as I get over 200 e-mails a day..from people hearing our stuff and loving it, and tons and tons of d.js and webzines wanting free cd's...its never ending..LOL...Who buys cd's? Why do we even press them? Have you heard about mp3 labels?? What the hell is that?? The trendies are multiplying..

Think about it...there’s so much music being shared for free..if people can get a full length disc in a download, why do they want to buy it? Since so many people do not even buy cd players anymore..they just run mp3s all day.. So the technology and the stupidity of the human race for the moral factor is what has made this happen..and it is happening to all the labels I know of… DSBP is just one of them...and yeah..it sucks, and I have never ,ever downloaded a full cd off the internet, and I buy cd's instead if copying them, and downloading them. I wish more would do the same, instead of following the sheeople, and trends they follow. I can't believe what has become, and why someone would spend their time copying discs, and downloading free bootlegs, but then again I value art, and respect the musicians doing it..so I buy it. Cd's are more intense to me, than the fashion...I laugh at how many chose fashion over music, and dance to the same old shit at the club every week for the last 10 years...just as cheezy as the commercial fucks..just looking more "scary and trendy" hehehe whatever..
Without labels like DSBP, and our killer compilations, so many bands would go unheard forever...as the same old 80's new wave/rock blares the sound system at every supposed "industrial night" in every city...predictable..(yawn).

14. What are the future plans for DSBP?
To keep pushing great new hard elektro/harsh industrial sounds..helping our bands get more cd's released, and gigs and support. We also will keep ranting and letting the people know what’s up here, and why things are like that!!
Without knowledge we cannot change things...so we talk about it to bring about change at some point..or at least keep the other side open to people. We have a lot of new stuff coming out this year...new AGHAST VIEW, DIVERJE, RUN LEVEL ZERO, IONIC VISION, and ANDRACULOID discs!! We are not stopping man...no matter what happens...

15. Any final comments for our readers?
Keep supporting the good hard industrial music!!
Check out DSBP for all your mailorder needs..
http://www.dsbp.cx
http://www.cyberage.cx
and Cyberage radio for constant new music, and great mixes of all styles..
Thanks man, gotta jet, cheers.